How many of you have always been curious about things
like the Akashic records, energy healing,
different somatic practices to help you heal?
Well, on today's episode, I have guest Mari Lee
and Mari is a trauma and mindset coach,
energy healer and Akashic record reader.
She uses a variety of tools, including somatic therapy
techniques and quantum energy healing
along with Akashic records to clear blocks
on multiple layers, helping you attract more money,
happiness, freedom, confidence into your life
and let's not forget helping you heal.
So let's dig into today's episode.
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You're listening to the Soul Aligned Self-Care Podcast.
I'm your host, Tina Stinson,
and I had a stroke at the age of 39 from stress
and burnout that shook my world.
Now I'm laying it all out,
the deep level self-care practices and mindset shifts
that I needed that kept me healthy, balanced and thriving.
Join me in this intimate space
as we explore healing, resilience and a soul's journey
to alignment.
This is where real conversations
about deep level self-care happen.
Let's get into it.
Hello, Mari, welcome to the Soul Aligned Self-Care Podcast.
How are you doing today?
- I'm doing great, Tina.
Thank you so much for having me.
- Yeah, I'm excited about our chat today,
excited to get to know you a little bit.
So if you could start off by sharing with me
and the audience a little bit about yourself,
what you do and maybe a little bit about your journey.
- Absolutely, so I am a trauma and mindset coach.
I primarily work with women to tell them
heal their past, connect to their highest selves
and create their dream lines.
I do a variety of modalities to get my clients
transformation results from somatic therapy techniques
to quantum energy healing
and I do it all of it within the Akasha Grakr's,
which is a very unique way
to do the work that I do with my clients.
But personally, on my journey,
I had gone through so many major traumas
in my young adult years and my teenage years
and I lived for so long just thinking that those traumas
were always going to be a part of me in my story
and my day-to-day life because they were things
that was really struggling to move past,
even though I had done what society had told me
to do to quote unquote heal them.
I had done the talk therapy.
I had done journaling and affirmations
and all those things that are yes great tools
and they help bring us awareness,
but oftentimes they don't actually give us the healing
and connection that we need to fully heal, transcend,
or integrate them.
And so I had really reached a place of,
these are always gonna be here.
They're always going to be something
that comes into my mind.
That is always part of my story of how I make decisions
and what I think about myself.
And when I found this work, that is really when
that all shifted for me.
So it truly inspired me to also be able to use this
to help other people now do the same thing
and realize that you don't have to stay in a place
for your unhappy or you don't feel competent
or you feel like you're just a person that bad thing happened to
and you're waiting for the other shoe to drop
or whatever it is.
I felt that way for so long too.
And now I don't like now I get to be in this place
that I feel competent, I feel happy, I feel empowered.
I feel like I'm a lucky person who good thing happened too.
And it gets to be that way.
And I don't think oftentimes, at least I was never introduced
to a world or a culture and environment where that was something
that was communicated.
- Yeah, that's very interesting.
So you talked about a few different things
like quantum energy, somatic practices and the Kashic records.
When you were on your journey,
did you run into these different type of things
like all at once or was it kind of like part of your journey
like you fell into like somatic healing
and then you got into quantum energy?
Like what was the process for you?
- For me, it's really interesting because I grew up very Catholic
and when I went to college,
the very first spiritual thing I ever did
was in a Kashik record reading.
And I had kind of forgotten about it for a while.
But when I was actually starting the work that I do now,
about four years ago,
I knew that there was this deep spiritual aspect to it
that I was missing and I kept going through modality
after modality.
And when I found the Akashic records,
and I opened them for the first time,
it was like floodgates.
And I was like, oh my God,
this was the missing piece of the puzzle.
And so it came very full circle for me with the Akashic records.
But it wasn't something that I had experienced
when I was working with coaches or healers
as a healing modality or a tool.
It was just kind of like, it's like one of those things,
I feel like a lot of people hear about
that they don't really understand what they are.
- Mm-hm.
- So I had gone through a lot of quantum energy healing
and karma healing and different things along those lines.
And then the somatic healing aspect
has really come in later.
So it wasn't really, it wasn't something
where I was just doing all of them at once.
It was kind of like we're going from stepping stone
to stepping stone to stepping stone.
But it has all come together in a very unique way
for me to be able to integrate them all at once.
And use them in a way where they're able to elevate
and amplify each other.
- That's really beautiful.
I love that.
So when you talk about, so maybe let's get into
the Akashic records.
- Yeah.
- Because you're right.
Like a lot of people don't understand what that is.
And I was talking to another guest the other day about this
and we touched on it just a little bit.
And I'm still trying to wrap my head around it.
I've never done, I've never done it before
but I know a lot of people who do
and I hear nothing but good things.
So maybe you could talk on that a little bit
to explain what it is to people.
- Yeah, I'd love to.
- The Akashic records for tangible terms.
I try to make it relatable.
There's two ways I can explain it.
And so take which one resonates most with you.
The first is like Google for the soul.
So it's really an energy that individuals are able
to tap into and essentially read to get information
about an individual soul, person, place, collective.
And the other way I like to explain it is like a library.
And so you have this library and every individual has a book.
And so you can go and you can open their book
and you can read about their past experiences,
their thoughts, their feelings, their present
and also their potential futures.
So with the Akashic records,
it isn't something I always like to clarify.
It isn't something where I can just be like,
I'm gonna go open your records, read all about you.
And we need permission.
We all have free will as humans.
So I do need permission from whoever's records
I'm opening in order to go into them.
And they are protected by benevolent light beams.
So they are very, if someone ever tries to access the records
with ill intentions, they're not able to.
And so it's amazing because as soon as I open up
someone's records, they can immediately feel
one, a deeper connection just with their soul.
And two, because when the records are open,
it's kind of like removing some of those more humanly
things we experience, the limiting beliefs, the fears
and it just gives us a stronger connection immediately.
And two, it really helps people feel this sense of safety.
Because it is kind of like you're now in this energy
of fully being supported and held
with your records are open.
So I always begin in end of session with clients
no matter what we're doing by opening and closing their records
because then it does amplify the modalities and tools
that we're using.
Or even if we're just having a conversation and talking,
it's doing a lot more of healing and work
just with the records open, which is very cool.
That is cool.
That was something that the other person I talked to said
also that it's just healing to be in the Akashic records.
Now am I correct to say that these things
that you are in the Akashic records,
like because if we're talking about quantum time
or whatever you would call it,
everything exists all at once, right?
And so you have everything happening all at once,
but is it correct to say,
I don't know if I'm thinking of this the right way,
that nothing is exact, right?
So I would say that for me personally,
there's a lot of Akashic record readers out there
who use the records in different ways, right?
Some people think of them more kind of in line
with like psychics or mediums.
I personally don't love using it to do that kind of work
just because I...
You're seeking answers, which is okay.
Everybody has those times where like you want certain,
do you want clarity,
and instead of finding them within yourselves,
you're trying to find them from an external source.
And so for me, when I'm using their records,
I like to use them more of a modality of the healing
because if I want people to be really committed
to their healing journey and not just come to me
when they want like a tuna or to solve a current problem
and then they're good for a year
and then they're in crisis mode again.
Yeah, I want them to experience that long lasting transformation
to really impact and change their life and be that catalyst.
I would say to answer your question that, yes,
like the records are always changing.
We are able to go in, we're able to rewrite them,
we're able to every minute, you can ask like,
what is for my highest good, if I do this,
and if I make this decision once for my highest good,
because everything is changing every second for all of us.
So there's never any certainty,
but it is really cool to see healing that happens
when you go in and you can heal the present
and then see how it infiltrates all these other timelines.
Yeah, which is something I love to just look at
and watch when I'm in session.
That's really cool.
And just a thought just popped into my head
like when it comes to talk therapy.
And like, so say you're doing like a healing session
and you're in the Acacia records
and you're healing something that's going on presently,
but after this person does this healing,
then it automatically heals things from the past
and from the future, right?
So in talk therapy a lot of times,
they bring people back into the past
to like almost like relive the trauma,
which I feel like sometimes I'm not a therapist or a counselor,
I have no education on that whatsoever,
but I feel like sometimes that could do more harm than good
in my mind and to hear like someone say,
yeah, this can just heal you like all around just your soul
on a soul level is much better.
Yeah, and I feel like talk therapy
just doesn't work for a lot of people.
And I'm sure this happens to you too,
but this happens in my business
where I'm a life coach and a health coach.
I work with a lot of people that are dealing
with like stress and anxiety, burnout, overwhelm,
and a lot of them have been working with counselors
with therapists for years and they come to me
and it's the first time that they ever have
any type of solution or resolution or relief.
And I just find it really hard to understand.
I've never done talk therapy myself
besides marriage counseling, I've done that.
So I guess that could count a little bit,
but that it's not, it doesn't seem to be as effective
as different types of healing modalities
that are used in coaching.
I completely agree.
I don't think I've honestly ever had a client
who has not had that experience as well
where they've gone to talk therapy
and been like, it just, it hasn't been working.
Maybe it helped like five or 10% or like max of 50%,
but it's always still there.
And you can just, you can feel it still there.
And I always tell, I personally believe that we hold
limony belief, spheres, traumas, whatever it is.
We hold them on different levels.
So we hold them physically, mentally, emotionally
and energetically.
And so when you're going to do talk therapy,
it might be helping you heal like the mental aspect of it,
maybe a little bit of emotional
if you're really connecting to the emotions
like when you're talking and releasing.
It's not hitting all the levels.
And so that's why it doesn't tend to really benefit people.
Like I think it is a good starting point for people
because it does give awareness, but awareness doesn't heal you.
It's great for where we're at right now
because logically as humans, we want to understand it.
We want to comprehend what's happening.
We want validation too.
We want validation.
Yeah.
And we can understand it, but that doesn't fix it.
That doesn't make it go away.
Yeah.
And I want to emphasize that I'm not against counseling
or a therapy or in any way shape or form.
As a matter of fact, a lot of my clients, they see me, they do both.
Yeah.
Like a lot of my clients have both.
And so I think that was a good way to explain it
the way you said all the different levels.
And I think absolutely, that's very correct.
That sounds very accurate.
So talking about going into quantum energy,
tell me what that means for people.
What does that mean to you and how would you explain that?
It's very hard to explain to someone who hasn't honestly experienced it.
Yeah.
Maybe someone with a limited energy, like a limit in that energy,
limited idea of what quantum energy is, like a beginner.
So I'll try to do this 101.
We'll work on it.
Yeah.
If when you think about energy, you think everything is made up of energy.
There's energy all around us in the water, in your food,
in the people you interact with, in your car, in your house.
Everything is at the end of the day, made up of energy.
And so quantum essentially means 5D.
We have the 3D, which is everything physical you can see, touch, feel.
And then you have the 4D, which is kind of more of this in between territory.
And then we go into the 5D.
And that's really where the timeline starts falling apart.
And that's where everything gets to just be.
But within the 5D is also the 4D, and the 3D, and the 2D, and the 1D.
Because every time you kind of go up a dimension,
you're still incorporating the 1/2.
So hopefully that's making that.
And so when we're in the 5D, and we're doing quantum energy healing,
we are able to access all those different, all those different four levels
that I talked about.
And we're able to do healing on all four levels, which is really powerful with it.
Instead of just going in and maybe doing the emotional or the mental and some physical,
we get to hit all four of them at once.
So if you've ever experienced anything, we'll say, like, "Raky," for example,
because I feel like a lot of people are familiar with "Raky."
Yes, that is a type of energy healing.
I love "Raky." I'm not anti-raaky.
But I will say, I do think "Raky" is something more where you're going in
and you're doing "clearing" and "healing."
But generally, from my experience, I'm also a "Raky" healer, too.
I've done "Raky" healing before.
So I can say from my experience and individuals I've worked with,
and individuals have talked about "Raky."
It doesn't really stick.
Like it's because oftentimes, we're not actually resolving what the root is.
And so we're not actually getting to the root.
We're not healing that part.
Or we're just continuing to doing the same thing that's causing whatever the "Raky" healing
is supposed to be cleaning up and fixing.
Yeah.
So it's kind of like a band-aid to me.
Yeah, and the energy healing.
The quantum energy healing is really like for anyone who has an experience
if you take "Raky" as level one energy healing, this is like level 10.
Like you're just knocking it way much more out of the park.
And so it is a lot, to me at least, a lot more impactful.
And it is a lot more like we are really gaining to the root of it,
especially with the Akasha records because the Akasha records...
One makes it feel smoother, it feels safer.
It allows you to go deeper.
It allows you to have more capacity in sessions.
And we're able to use the records to get to the root.
So I can say like, "Okay, I like this person, having perfectionism."
Where's this coming from?
Like what's going on?
And granted, I don't believe we actually need to know the root
or the cause of any of our trauma or anything.
Like I'm not someone who's like, "I'm going to make you go back and hit
and it ties you to like relive it and rewrite it or anything."
But it can help us really get to the root of like,
"Okay, if there's this perfectionism, what's underneath it?
What's underneath that?"
And like maybe it comes down to really a worthiness
or a lack of self-love or a fear of abandonment or fear of rejection.
And so we're able to get more into that root and heal the root.
That's off.
It has all of these things coming off of it, the limiting beliefs,
the defense mechanisms, all of the physical pain and armoring
that's coming with it.
And so I don't know, does that answer your question?
Yeah, yeah.
It can be really, I went on a tangent there.
No, no, I was deep in it with you there.
I was like, where did this start?
Yeah, no, that's very good explanation.
And I love the way you put it.
Now, also, I would like to hear your take on somatic practices
because I feel like everybody uses that word almost like,
it almost seems like it's getting overused a little bit
and they use it very broadly.
And so maybe it's supposed to be used broadly, I don't know,
but what's your take on it?
I agree.
It's definitely trending right now.
And something that I see a lot of people doing
is they're talking about somatic work
or nervous system regulation even.
And they're giving people the tools that worked for them.
And that's my own personal take is that one
nervous system regulation tools.
I love them.
I use them.
I have my clients use them.
But I think they need to be customized to that individual
to meet them where they're at now, whether they're in freeze
or fight or fawn or whatever kind of trigger response
they're in because you could be in one trauma response
and a tool or a nervous regulation practice
would really benefit you.
But if you give it to someone else who's
in a totally different place, it might actually
dysregulate them or give them very minimal results.
And so a lot of individuals, they're saying like,
this is what worked for me.
So it's going to work for you.
And so I like to give people practices
to meet them where they're at.
And I also believe that nervous system regulation
needs to be used in conjunction with healing
because it is giving you more capacity.
It's creating that state in your body that you need.
But again, it's not giving you actual healing.
So whatever is causing that dysregulation
is going to continue to come up until you
can do the somatic healing, the energy healing, whatever
is to get to the root and give that the presence and connection
and healing that it needs.
So with somatic tools, I agree.
It covers a huge variety of things.
That can look like breath work to tapping to parts work,
IFAs, they're so many different ways to describe it.
And again, I think it's one of those things
that you kind of have to find the tools that
work best for the client.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
I call it--
I do that with my clients.
I call it the self-care toolbox.
And it's like, there's certain situations.
And correct me if you disagree.
But I feel like someone who's in a full-blown panic attack
is not going to be able to practice breath work.
Breath work is something to use before you
go into the panic attack.
So there's different practices to use
when you're inside of that panic attack.
And so I guess that's a very obvious example.
But yeah, I call, create your own toolbox.
So when I feel this emotion, this is what works for me.
When I'm in this situation, this is what works for me.
And I always explain it as--
so running is something that I do.
I love doing running.
And movement is a great way to handle
some difficult emotions, depending on the emotions.
But if I run when I'm anxious, it exaggerates that.
Because when you're running, you're putting yourself
into fight or fight.
And so it actually--
You're actually more energy and more momentum toward that.
But if I'm angry or frustrated, running really helps me
release that.
It helps me move through it.
And so that's how I always use that as an example,
because I feel like it's better understood.
So years ago, when I was like 39, I had a stroke
caused by stress.
And my ways of handling the stress that I was going through
at the time, which was a lot of stress,
was working out, but like heavy duty, like running, boxing,
kickboxing.
And I always think back to that.
And I'm like, yeah, that was exactly what I didn't need.
Like I needed--
Yeah, you know?
I needed something--
commerce, of the little different than that--
Of the things we don't.
And I do other things.
We need the most.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, if you were to tell me to do yoga back then,
I would have been like, no.
And now it's like, now I do yoga every day.
So I guess a question that I always have,
because I've never done this work.
When you're doing like a kosher records
or the quantum energy healing, how do you bring a person
into that?
Do you use meditation, visualization?
How does that work?
It's really different depending on what we're doing
and the client.
So honestly, no session looks the same.
So it's kind of hard to answer that.
And it depends on their goals, because I work with women
on so many different things.
It could be leaning more into their feminine.
It could be something like burnout,
or I want to feel more confident, or I
have these traumas that I'm ready to release.
Or maybe they are in a place where we just
want to do going and create safety in their body for a while,
because that's oftentimes the first step.
So it's always different.
If I'm doing energy healing, usually I'll kind of put on more
of herds music.
And I'll have them do a little bit of breathing and just
get into a really more grounded state and connected
to their body.
Sometimes I have them verbalized and say things
that they want me to say to help release it,
to help it move and shift and be like, this is why you benefited
me, but I'm so right to release this.
And I need to let this go for X, Y, Z.
And I have them really talked through it sometimes.
Sometimes it does look like them doing a combination
of somatic and energy work.
I love doing the somatic work while I'm doing energy clearing.
I feel like that is really cool and really powerful,
but it's always different.
Yeah, that's interesting.
So what type of women do you tend to work with the most?
What do you gravitate towards?
I work a lot with perfectionists.
I work a lot with people, pleasers.
I do have-- I feel like it kind of goes one of two ways.
I do get clients quite a bit who they've created the life
that they want or thought that they wanted,
and it doesn't feel how they thought it would feel.
So they'll be really in this place more of--
I thought I would be happy here.
I thought I would feel more confident once I was here.
I thought I would feel free.
And even though I'm a service and the outside,
I have everything that I want on the inside.
It does not feel that way.
So it can go that direction, or a lot of the women
I work with tend to go more towards--
my relationships are being impacted by my past.
I don't feel safe.
I feel like a lot of imposterous in drum.
More of a fond people pleasing kind of place.
So do people often seek you out when they actually
have the knowledge that they need that deep healing?
Or not really?
Yeah.
I would say they do.
I work a lot with referrals, honestly, which is great,
because then they tend to be more of my ideal clients,
which I love.
Yeah.
But usually it is kind of when they fit that place of like,
I've tried everything I know to try.
And I can't live this way, and this is my last resort.
Yeah.
Because like they've been doing the therapy,
they've been working actually really hard,
and they're not seeing results.
They're like, this person told me I need to write
affirmations down a bunch of times,
and that's great.
Affirmations are great.
But they're not, they're just like covering up the stuff
that you have, because you're not actually releasing that.
And so now you have a foster syndrome.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Or cognitive dissonance.
And so they tend to be really to the place that I can't keep doing
this anymore.
Yeah.
Something else to give.
All right.
I have another question I just popped into my head
about the Acoustic Records.
And I mean, just in general, honestly,
and I have a feeling I know how you're going to answer this,
but the how long does it take to get through healing
when you're using that quantum energy
in the Acoustic Records that works really quicker?
Is it different for every person?
Does it depend on what they're looking for?
Or is it something that can really move people along quickly?
It tends to move quicker than anything else.
I've experienced.
But it's not like-- I think a lot of people
expect to have that lightning bolt element during the session
of like, oh my god, it's gone.
Yeah.
And that's not really how it works.
Sometimes it could be like that day.
Sometimes it could be weeks later.
It really kind of depends on what we're healing.
And what I always say tends to happen,
and this is what a lot of people have shared with me,
is that usually a couple of weeks after a session--
and I like to give my clients a couple of weeks
of integration time before session.
So I don't like to do back-to-back calls every week,
because I want them to have that time to really integrate.
Otherwise, I do think it can be overwhelming,
because a lot changes so quickly when we're doing this work.
But usually after a week or two or maybe three,
they'll be doing something and they'll realize
and they'll think, oh my god, that thing that four weeks ago
was my biggest block was really holding me back,
that I couldn't stop thinking about that was constantly
impacting all of these areas of my life.
I don't feel it anymore.
It feels gone.
I think I haven't realized that hasn't come up for me
in like over a week, and I just haven't
been realized it, but it's not there anymore.
Yeah.
And it tends to feel-- it does feel very subtle like that,
which I like.
And because I've experienced more of those in 10-centred healing
for like, you're physically sick and purging a lot.
But with this, it does tend to normally be very subtle,
and it gets to be--
it really gets to that place of, it just feels like this isn't
part of my story anymore.
Like it feels like, for example, with trauma or something,
it feels like, wow, like, yeah, that happened,
but it feels like a movie I watched or like a book I read.
It doesn't feel like it's mine.
It doesn't feel like it's weighing on me.
And it doesn't feel like it has any kind of holdover me anymore.
Yeah.
Nice.
I love that.
What's beautiful?
I don't know if you saw that, but did you see that?
There's a gigantic ant crawling on my computer right now.
And I'm like, where did that come from?
It's legitimately.
There's six inches of snow outside.
So I'm like, I do have plants.
But I was like, oh, my god, I'm so distracted by that.
You need to look up the symbolism of an ant.
I know exactly.
Yes.
I know exactly.
He's up there again.
He's going to walk over my camera.
Anyway, where can people find you?
Where can they connect with you?
Yes.
You guys can find me on my website and on Instagram.
My Instagram is Marie Lee B. M-A-R-I-L-E-I-G-H B.
And my website is Marie Lee B. M-A-R-I-L-E-G-H.
Perfect.
That'll be in the show notes so that everybody can connect with Marie.
And I want to thank you again for all your knowledge and for taking the time to explain
everything to me and the beautiful work you do.
So thanks for coming on.
Of course.
Thank you so much for having me, Tina, and for everyone listening.
Did you guys know that the Salt Aligned Self-Care Podcast has a community?
It's called the Salt Aligned Self-Care Insiders.
And I would love you guys to join us over there.
So the link will be in the show notes.
And I want to say we do so many cool self-care practices over there.
So if you really want to up-level your self-care, join us on the insiders.
Okay, I'll see you there.
